Wallaby Jack!
"arrangement" was merely a term.Nothing more than that.One hears it all the time. If you can describe it in a better way-that's fine. I did not mean it to sound cold or unfeeling. We hear many expressions today describing this or that. So you pick one you think suits. If you have had good relationships in your lifetime that's good. Some of us have not been so fortunate. Maybe we do not share your viewpoint for that reason. Anyway the sole intent of that article was to try and lift up the spirits of a few fallen souls. I suppose there are many on this board that will do as you did. Pick out an expression they think doesn't suit them and pick it apart. But you'll notice I directed the article to the one's i felt might appreciate a little encouragement. You seemed to have missed that entirely.
Bill Parker
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FOR THOSE CONSCIOUS OF THEIR SPIRITUAL NEED!
by Bill Parker inwednesday, november 28, 2001 .
i can remember that prior to my study of the bible i never gave a thought to my conduct and actions.
that was a concern far from my thoughts.
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FOR THOSE CONSCIOUS OF THEIR SPIRITUAL NEED!
by Bill Parker inwednesday, november 28, 2001 .
i can remember that prior to my study of the bible i never gave a thought to my conduct and actions.
that was a concern far from my thoughts.
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Bill Parker
FOR THOSE CONSCIOUS OF THEIR SPIRITUAL NEED!
Wednesday, November 28, 2001
I can remember that prior to my study of the Bible I never gave a thought to my conduct and actions. That was a concern far from my thoughts. It never even crossed my mind.
I must admit too, looking back on my life that my conduct and actions hurt many people. My own Mother told me one day: “Bill do you know how awful you are?” At the time I did not give that statement much thought. But those words were burned into my memory to later come back and haunt me.
As my study of the Bible progressed I really began to get a first hand look at myself and I began to become very troubled about what I had been like in the past. Like a continuous movie, events of my life would keep flashing into my mind and my Mothers words that were etched into my mind would keep repeating themselves. “Bill do you know how awful you are?”
As I continued with my study my life instead of getting better was becoming even more intolerable. As my knowledge increased so did my anxiety because of my awareness now of just how sinful I had been, and was even now. The fact that I seemed to have a certain propensity to sinning even though I now knew it was displeasing to Jehovah was what was most troubling of all.
I cannot remember leaving a meeting feeling good about myself. The meetings always seemed to tear me down rather than build me up. At many of the big assemblies I would leave just to sit in my car because of hearing things that would even more deeply trouble me.
I reached a particular plateau of knowledge and then it just seemed to stop. Some of the things that I believed, {and I was told that I must believe them on pain of Disfellowshipping} were then changed to something else. Then later changed again. IN some cases this went on many times. If I myself personally were to change any of the teachings and I was heard expressing myself to someone else something contrary to what I was being taught. There would have been a judicial meeting. Anyone in this situation was expected to repent of his or her wrongdoing or be removed. A process of “marking” and “shunning” would follow this. And has actually destroyed many family arrangements. So it was all right for them to change teachings but no one else dared try it!
AS troubled as I was these actions only caused me more grief. I knew something was wrong but I was not certain exactly what it was. So it added to the anxiety that was already too much for me to bear.
As I sat in the meetings listening to the speakers announcing that this one or that one whose “love for Jehovah” was so great that they were going to “be “special pioneers” or “regular pioneers” ect,ect. Then I watched as these one’s were given all of the privileges in the congregations. They were always on the platform telling of their experiences. While many others were relegated to the lowest position. This also added to my anxiety. Now I had to be concerned with the fact that because I could not at the time follow a like course I of course did not Love Jehovah as much as those. So away I went those evenings feeling even lower than before. More troubled!
Being as aware of my sinful condition as I was I would go to Jehovah in prayer many times. I would honestly confess to all of my sins to Him. I was at times very specific mentioning to Him exactly what the particular weaknesses were. Then I would ask for the help I needed in gaining the mastery over them so that I could be found pleasing to Him as I walked before Him.
No answers as far as I could tell ever came. The anguish and torment continued. I was in an upset state almost all of the time, without letup.
I reached a point in my life that I wanted to die. I wanted to get from under the heavy burden that I was carrying. I prayed to Jehovah many times to end my life so that I could finally be at peace. I’m still alive so that prayer was never answered. I had sat in silence for years in the various congregations that I attended listening to things being taught that the Bible did not support.One night at a Book Study I had had enough. The study was in the Revelation Book. It was discussing the “coming cry of “Peace and Security.” The elder conducting the Book Study was summing up adding his comment. In actuality though all he was doing was parroting the Society’s interpretation that was not scripturally sound. I put my hand up after his comment and told him in the presence of all that what he had just stated was not correct! At that point he became very belligerent. He said in an angry tone “I am the Book Study conductor here.” Then he said I will speak to you about this later in private.” I stood up looked him in the eye and told him to “conduct away.” Then I just walked out. He was supposed to speak to me first alone as the Bible directs. Instead he went to another elder who in turn phoned me. He said: “Are you challenging the faithful Slave?” Then he said: “Do you want to leave the truth?” Then I heard: “When are you going to start celebrating birthdays?” At that point I had taken enough insults. I threatened to rearrange his face and hung up on him.
The following Sunday during the Watchtower study I tried many times to make a comment. My hand was simply ignored. After the study I went to the Elder who I had spoken to on the phone and asked him if I “was barred from commenting?” He told me that I could comment but I was to “keep my opinions to myself!” Away went my rights and freedom’s under Canada’s Charter. I was told not “to go beyond what was written in the Watchtower.” I told them later in a letter to them, that it was the Bible the Apostle Paul commanded us not to go beyond. But they put the Watchtower articles before Jehovah’s word of truth. With that statement he violated every one of my rights and freedoms under Canada’s Charter. I left that day never to return again. I received one visit from them later. They rang my enter-phone and said they wished to speak with me. They owed me an apology. I had neither done nor said anything wrong at all. They were the one’s in the wrong. I said: “ Is this visit about the apology you owe me”. I received a gruff “No!” I then told them to “Get Lost!” They complied.
The empty years that followed were a time of turmoil that I could never describe to anyone. My life was a time of unbelievable upheaval. Only someone who has been through the same thing would understand what I am saying here.
I began to study and research alone. I spent many days, many hours many years pouring over the pages of the Bible as well as articles that I retrieved from the Internet and the Library. I gathered a huge amount of information about so many people who had been seriously hurt by the Watchtower Society and their Wolf like elder arrangement. As well as historical evidence that proved beyond all doubt that the particular stand that I was taking on the cry of “Peace and Security was correct beyond all doubt. AS I read their stories and looked at the inserted scriptures some of them used to prove why they believed they were treated unjustly I was finally able to piece it all together. At the end of this study I knew why my knowledge never progressed. I had been allowing others to do my thinking for me. I was accepting all of the teachings of the Society as though they were carved in stone. I was in fact violating Bible principles by doing that.
Jehovah had instructed me and all other lovers of truth through the mouth of the Apostle John with these words: “Do not believe every inspired utterance but test the inspired utterance to see if it originates with God for many false prophets have gone out into the world.” Then in Romans 12:2 I focused on these words: … “Prove to yourself the good and acceptable and perfect will of God” … Then for my third biblical witness are these words at 1 Thessalonians 5: 21 “Make sure of all things” … In all of that I learned that all of us, in order to fully please Jehovah must before accepting any scriptural teaching follow all of that scriptural direction. We do not just blindly accept everything we are being taught by religious leaders today. That is true because all of us stand alone before the” judgment seat of God”. We will be judged individually on the basis of the knowledge we possessed and how we conformed from the heart to our own understanding of the scriptures. Romans 14: 10,12
Only recently because I was so troubled and because I began to think that I must have committed the Sin against the Holy Spirit I began to pray in earnest. Since I believed that not one of my prayers all through that troubled period had been answered. I asked Jehovah in prayer if that actually was the case. Then I asked Him that if it was, to show me that it was and that He wanted to have no more to do with me. Then I would refrain from any more prayer and trouble Him no longer.
Shortly after I came into contact with someone who worked very closely with the Governing Body. He had left the organization. I am not certain of the circumstances in his case. We began communicating with one another through E-mails. I found that this individual had a great depth of knowledge. As I began reading his E-mails I found he possessed a very unloving attitude. He had little kindness compassion or love for certain fellow humans. He was judging others as “haters of God and his word the Bible” That is the point that I corrected him on. I believe that none of us are the appointed judges. I believe that the business of judging belongs to Jehovahs appointed judge. I told him that. I used the Bible to do that. The words that I spoke to him were not my words. They were from the pages of the Bible. In his last E-mail to me he called me a “liar” he called me “stupid” he said that I “was an evil man.” Of course now I was really feeling bad about myself.
After thinking about it for awhile I began to see I too was sadly lacking in those qualities, although as the years went by I notice a change coming over me. I was ever so slowly developing a very caring attitude towards others. Even though I possessed much anger a gradual change in attitude was going on within me. I find now that because of all of the adversities that I have been suffering I have a little more understanding. I have a little more love. I am slowly becoming conscious of the need to show kindness to others. When I started to think about all of the changes that were slowly being made my mind for some reason went to the scripture at Hebrews12: 6 I turned to that scripture and began reading it. At that point I realized that Jehovah had been answering every prayer that I ever uttered. I realized then what had actually been going on in my life. That scripture in Hebrews 12:5,6 reads: “and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as Sons, “MY SON DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISIPLINE OF THE LORD NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE REPROVED BY HIM; FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE HAS RECEIVED”
What many have been going through was foretold in Malachi 3:1-3 in Verse three it states: … “ He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver And He will purify the Priests, the Sons of Levi. And refine them like gold and silver, that they may offer to the Lord offerings in righteousness.” The prophet Isaiah helps us even more to understand what has actually been going on in our lives. We are informed: “ Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tried and chosen you in the furnace of affliction.” Isaiah 48:10 now we can understand exactly what it was that the Apostle Peter had in mind when he stated: “Beloved, do not be amazed and bewildered at the fiery ordeal which is taking place to test your quality, as though something strange … were befalling you” … 1 Peter 4: 12-14
From all of the foregoing it is clear Jehovah has not cast us aside at all. Quite the contrary! Everything that has been occurring in our lives and that will occur has been occurring to mold and fashion us so that Jehovah will eventually view us as worthy of entering His Kingdom under Christ Jesus.
But the going may even get rougher as time goes on. We will still continue to fail and fall short of pleasing Jehovah. The discipline may even become more severe. The furnace of affliction may become even hotter as the refining process continues. We have to keep remembering that we are going through this process of refinement that will in the end produce “righteous fruit.”
We have all now been brought very low. In the eye’s of others and probably in our own eye’s. That is the position every professing Christian should be in. It is wise to remain in that position! The Apostle Peter tells us: “ Humble yourselves {demote, lower yourselves in you own estimation} under the mighty hand of God, that in due time He may exalt you.”1 Peter 5: 6
What do we all have to do now? Give up because we are going through such hardships? Not at all! Jehovah like the loving Father He is will be with us every step of the way as long as we keep on enduring the fiery trials that are coming upon us. Follow the direction given by Jesus Himself at Matthew 7: 7,8 “KEEP ON ASKING AND IT WILL BE GIVEN YOU; KEEP ON SEEKING AND YOU WILL FIND; KEEP ON KNOCKING {reverently} and {the door} will be opened to you. For EVERYONE who KEEPS ON ASKING receives; and he who KEEPS ON seeking finds; and to him who KEEPS ON KNOCKING, {the door} will be opened” They can remove us from the congregations. They can mark and shun us. They can destroy our marriage arrangement. They can break up our families. They may even break our hearts and spirit. They can never though snatch us from Jehovah’s loving hands. Jesus said: “No one is able to snatch them out of my hand” and “No one is able to snatch them out of my Fathers hand.” John 10: 28,29
All of our unanswered prayers were really answered. Not according to the way we might have wanted them to be answered. They were and are though being answered according to the way Jehovah views matters because He has our everlasting well being in mind. He knows far better than us what is in our best interests. That is why Jesus always prayed: “Let your will be done” That is the way He directed all of us to pray. Matthew 6: 9-13
All of us now must continue to be conscious of our spiritual need and never just give up because the going is getting too tough. The hotter the Furnace of affliction gets will be our assurance that Jehovah is still dealing with us as Son’s. If we allow this refining process to mold and shape us into vessels fit for an honorable use we will make it into the Kingdom. Then under more favorable conditions Jehovah will finish our training. The Apostle Peter summed it all up nicely when he said at 1 Peter 5: 10 “ And after you have suffered a little while {in the furnace of affliction} the God of all grace {Who imparts all blessing and favor}, who has called you to His own eternal glory in Christ Jesus, will Himself complete and make you what you ought to be establish and ground you securely, and strengthen and settle you”. The only one who wants us to give up now is Satan the Devil. If we give up, he wins. Jehovah does not want you me, or anyone to stop worshipping Him. So never even entertain the idea of giving up. You have too much to lose but everything to gain by getting up if you have been stumbled. Begin again! The opportunity for everlasting life in Jehovah’s new order of things is right at the doors.
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An added point for "THIS GENERATION"
by Bill Parker inthis generation.
i was born in the year 1932!
if someone were to ask me: are you part of the generation of 1914?
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expatbrit:
Yeah! It is a bit of a stretch. But I am not the one who said that.That as you said was a conclusion that could be arrived at by others. How you read that in there I'll never know. I was only dealing with the time period from 1914 onward. From Adam to wherever was not even in my mind. I was simply supplying my reasoning on the matter as I saw it. Now if I am incorrect in this reasoning you would only be doing me a favor by showing me scripturally where I am wrong. If what you say computes I will quickly change my view. I am really only interested in understanding the Bible correctly. "One man sharpens the face of another." I really believe that. No one has all knowledge. We need to be able to reason together logically and sensibly in order to gain the proper understanding of any scriptural matter. Those really interested in spiritual things would approach it that way. Those only interested in belittling others have their approach too,don't they? Bill -
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An added point for "THIS GENERATION"
by Bill Parker inthis generation.
i was born in the year 1932!
if someone were to ask me: are you part of the generation of 1914?
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Bill Parker
Namewithheld;
"When there all dead and gone" the KINGDOM will hold full sway! Lets hope that will not be long in coming. Oh by the way under Canada's Charter we all {both you and I} have the right to freedom of speech, opinion and the freedom to express those opinions. When I read the comments of many on this board even though I may not agree with them I respect their rights to say whatever they wish. I do not purposely try to insult anyone with sarcastic insulting remarks such as the one's here. When you do that you are telling the individual in question that he doesn't have any rights and freedoms. Most of you would be the first to scream your guts out if anyone violated yours. But you do whatever turns you on. I got the hell out of the congregation because of shit like that! Nothing ever changes does it? Same old- Same old.We don't have them here either do we?
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An added point for "THIS GENERATION"
by Bill Parker inthis generation.
i was born in the year 1932!
if someone were to ask me: are you part of the generation of 1914?
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“THIS GENERATION”
I was born in the year 1932! If someone were to ask me: “Are you part of the generation of 1914?” In all honesty would I be able to answer in the affirmative? How could I since I was born in the year 1932, 18 years later. At my birth was I not the beginning of a new generation of people? When my first daughter was born was she not also? Likewise my Son’s. Then when they had children were not their children part of a new generation. ? On and on we could go with this discussion. I think though the point has been made. Jesus illustration: “note the fig tree and all the other trees” only fits the “harvest season,” “ the conclusion of the system of things” when “all of the trees would be in full leafage. That is where we now stand. All of those alive right at this moment all around this globe are the generation He was talking about.
In 1914 they only saw the “beginning of signs of distress.” They did not observe the full and complete “sign” of the “presence of Christ in Kingdom Power.” They would have observed only the buds on the trees not trees in full leafage as we do. This is just an added point to my discussion on “this generation.”
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TRY THIS SCENARIO FOR "THIS GENERATION"
by Bill Parker intry this scenario for this generation!.
didnt jesus say when you see these signs, `all taken together, coming to pass, you may know `of a surety that he is near, at the very doors.
truly i tell you, this generation {the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a definite, given period} will not pass away till all these things taken together take place {matthew 24: 33, 34} in verse 32 jesus gives an illustration to show us how to view the signs he has given us.
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T.D.
If you think about it the way things are going on this planet right now it could possibly be all wiped out by Nuclear or Biological warefare at any time now. Where that to happen this entire plannet would be a burned out cinder. Wouldn't it? The Generation of people living would all be gone wouldn't they? If there were any survivors they would sure be wishing that they wern't. I know I would! I think that Jesus meant that it would not be allowed to contiue. It would be "cut short". So He could have meant not "pass away" in death as individuals are doing every day. It also could have been a reference to being "CUT SHORT? by divine intervention could't it? Bill -
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TRY THIS SCENARIO FOR "THIS GENERATION"
by Bill Parker intry this scenario for this generation!.
didnt jesus say when you see these signs, `all taken together, coming to pass, you may know `of a surety that he is near, at the very doors.
truly i tell you, this generation {the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a definite, given period} will not pass away till all these things taken together take place {matthew 24: 33, 34} in verse 32 jesus gives an illustration to show us how to view the signs he has given us.
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Hi again T.D.
I forgot to mention the point that you made about the fruit. We both know that Jesus gave those illustration for good reason. The one about the "fig tree" would really impress the point He was making to someone very familiar with tree's. Such as yourself. A farmer would know when that fruit was ready for picking would'nt he? As you said there would be two crops of fruit from the fig tree. You added to my small fund of knowledge. I didn't know that! When this farmer reached up to test a little of the fruits of his labor he would know by biting into it that it was fully ripe wouldn't he? When he bit into that ripe fruit he would know for sure that summer is really here. Correspondingly Jesus said when you see ALL the trees in full bloom "The KIngdom of God is near" Bill Parker -
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TRY THIS SCENARIO FOR "THIS GENERATION"
by Bill Parker intry this scenario for this generation!.
didnt jesus say when you see these signs, `all taken together, coming to pass, you may know `of a surety that he is near, at the very doors.
truly i tell you, this generation {the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a definite, given period} will not pass away till all these things taken together take place {matthew 24: 33, 34} in verse 32 jesus gives an illustration to show us how to view the signs he has given us.
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Hi T.D.
"Pass Away" I believe in this instance since Jesus said: "they will not" means that many of that generation will still be alive at His coming. True people are dying every day now and just how many would be left is anybody's guess. My understanding of that is that not all alive right now will die off. If we are really in the time of the harvest now and facing the conclusion of the system of things, then doesn't that of necessity mean that this is the generation Jesus was making reference to? Since the entire sign was to be in evidence at that time. Of course if we are really not in the time of the harvest and the end of the system of things is not upon us then my reasoning cannot be correct. If it isn't I would really like to see a scriptural discussion that explains fully exactly what Jesus was talking about. I cut and pasted some information froms Srong's Coconcordance for you to look at on the term pass away. Bill/index.html/index.html
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3928 parerchomai {par-er'-khom-ahee}from 3844 and 2064; TDNT - 2:681,257; v
AV - pass away 12, pass 10, pass by 3, pass over 1, transgress 1,
past 1, go 1, come forth 1, come 1; 311) to go past, pass by
1a) of persons moving forward
1a1) to pass by
1b) of time
1b1) an act continuing for a time
1c) metaph.
1c1) to pass away, perish
1c2) to pass by (pass over), that is, to neglect, omit,
(transgress)
1c3) to be led by, to be carried past, be averted
2) to come near, come forward, arrive
About Strongs Concordance for Strongs Number 3928 Go to Gen 1:1
There are 38 instances of verses containing Strong's number 3928. Page 1, verses 1 - 25.
Mat 5:18 For [1063] verily [281] I say [3004] (5719) unto you [5213], Till [2193] [302] heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] pass [3928] (5632), one [1520] jot [2503] or [2228] one [3391] tittle [2762] shall in no wise [3364] pass [3928] (5632) from [575] the law [3551], till [2193] [302] all [3956] be fulfilled [1096] (5638).
Mat 5:18 For [1063] verily [281] I say [3004] (5719) unto you [5213], Till [2193] [302] heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] pass [3928] (5632), one [1520] jot [2503] or [2228] one [3391] tittle [2762] shall in no wise [3364] pass [3928] (5632) from [575] the law [3551], till [2193] [302] all [3956] be fulfilled [1096] (5638).
Mat 8:28 And [2532] when he [846] was come [2064] (5631) to [1519] the other side [4008] into [1519] the country [5561] of the Gergesenes [1086], there met [5221] (5656) him [846] two [1417] possessed with devils [1139] (5740), coming [1831] (5740) out of [1537] the tombs [3419], exceeding [3029] fierce [5467], so that [5620] no [3361] man [5100] might [2480] (5721) pass [3928] (5629) by [1223] that [1565] way [3598].
Mat 14:15 And [1161] when it was [1096] (5637) evening [3798], his [846] disciples [3101] came [4334] (5656) to him [846], saying [3004] (5723), This is [2076] (5748) a desert [2048] place [5117], and [2532] the time [5610] is now [2235] past [3928] (5627); send [630] [0] the multitude [3793] away [630] (5657), that [2443] they may go [565] (5631) into [1519] the villages [2968], and buy [59] (5661) themselves [1438] victuals [1033].
Mat 24:34 Verily [281] I say [3004] (5719) unto you [5213], This [3778] generation [1074] shall not [3364] pass [3928] (5632), till [302] [2193] all [3956] these things [5023] be fulfilled [1096] (5638).
Mat 24:35 Heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] shall pass away [3928] (5695), but [1161] my [3450] words [3056] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass away [3928] (5632).
Mat 24:35 Heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] shall pass away [3928] (5695), but [1161] my [3450] words [3056] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass away [3928] (5632).
Mat 24:35 Heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] shall pass away [3928] (5695), but [1161] my [3450] words [3056] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass away [3928] (5632).
Mat 26:39 And [2532] he went [4281] [0] a little [3397] further [4281] (5631), and fell [4098] (5627) on [1909] his [846] face [4383], and [2532] prayed [4336] (5740), saying [3004] (5723), O my [3450] Father [3962], if [1487] it be [2076] (5748) possible [1415], let [3928] [0] this [5124] cup [4221] pass [3928] (5628) from [575] me [1700]: nevertheless [4133] not [3756] as [5613] I [1473] will [2309] (5719), but [235] as [5613] thou [4771] [wilt].
Mat 26:39 And [2532] he went [4281] [0] a little [3397] further [4281] (5631), and fell [4098] (5627) on [1909] his [846] face [4383], and [2532] prayed [4336] (5740), saying [3004] (5723), O my [3450] Father [3962], if [1487] it be [2076] (5748) possible [1415], let [3928] [0] this [5124] cup [4221] pass [3928] (5628) from [575] me [1700]: nevertheless [4133] not [3756] as [5613] I [1473] will [2309] (5719), but [235] as [5613] thou [4771] [wilt].
Mat 26:42 He went away [565] (5631) again [3825] the [1537] second time [1208], and prayed [4336] (5662), saying [3004] (5723), O my [3450] Father [3962], if [1487] this [5124] cup [4221] may [1410] (5736) not [3756] pass away [3928] (5629) from [575] me [1700], except [3362] I drink [4095] (5632) it [846], thy [4675] will [2307] be done [1096] (5676).
Mar 6:48 And [2532] he saw [1492] (5627) them [846] toiling [928] (5746) in [1722] rowing [1643] (5721); for [1063] the wind [417] was [2258] (5713) contrary [1727] unto them [846]: and [2532] about [4012] the fourth [5067] watch [5438] of the night [3571] he cometh [2064] (5736) unto [4314] them [846], walking [4043] (5723) upon [1909] the sea [2281], and [2532] would [2309] (5707) have passed by [3928] (5629) them [846].
Mar 13:30 Verily [281] I say [3004] (5719) unto you [5213], that [3754] this [3778] generation [1074] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass [3928] (5632), till [3360] [3739] all [3956] these things [5023] be done [1096] (5638).
Mar 13:30 Verily [281] I say [3004] (5719) unto you [5213], that [3754] this [3778] generation [1074] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass [3928] (5632), till [3360] [3739] all [3956] these things [5023] be done [1096] (5638).
Mar 13:31 Heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] shall pass away [3928] (5695): but [1161] my [3450] words [3056] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass away [3928] (5632).
Mar 13:31 Heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] shall pass away [3928] (5695): but [1161] my [3450] words [3056] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass away [3928] (5632).
Mar 13:31 Heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] shall pass away [3928] (5695): but [1161] my [3450] words [3056] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass away [3928] (5632).
Mar 14:35 And [2532] he went forward [4281] (5631) a little [3397], and fell [4098] (5627) on [1909] the ground [1093], and [2532] prayed [4336] (5711) that [2443], if [1487] it were [2076] (5748) possible [1415], the hour [5610] might pass [3928] (5632) from [575] him [846].
Luk 11:42 But [235] woe [3759] unto you [5213], Pharisees [5330]! for [3754] ye tithe [586] (5719) mint [2238] and [2532] rue [4076] and [2532] all manner [3956] of herbs [3001], and [2532] pass over [3928] (5736) judgment [2920] and [2532] the love [26] of God [2316]: these [5023] ought ye [1163] (5713) to have done [4160] (5658), and not [3361] to leave [863] [0] the other [2548] undone [863] (5721).
Luk 12:37 Blessed [3107] [are] those [1565] servants [1401], whom [3739] the lord [2962] when he cometh [2064] (5631) shall find [2147] (5692) watching [1127] (5723): verily [281] I say [3004] (5719) unto you [5213], that [3754] he shall gird himself [4024] (5698), and [2532] make [347] [0] them [846] to sit down to meat [347] (5692), and [2532] will come forth [3928] (5631) and serve [1247] (5692) them [846].
Luk 15:29 And [1161] he answering [611] (5679) said [2036] (5627) to [his] father [3962], Lo [2400] (5628), these many [5118] years [2094] do I serve [1398] (5719) thee [4671], neither [3763] [0] transgressed I [3928] (5627) at any time [3763] thy [4675] commandment [1785]: and [2532] yet [2532] thou [1325] [0] never [3763] gavest [1325] (5656) me [1698] a kid [2056], that [2443] I might make merry [2165] (5686) with [3326] my [3450] friends [5384]:
Luk 16:17 And [1161] it is [2076] (5748) easier [2123] for heaven [3772] and [2532] earth [1093] to pass [3928] (5629), than [2228] one [3391] tittle [2762] of the law [3551] to fail [4098] (5629).
Luk 17:7 But [1161] which [5101] of [1537] you [5216], having [2192] (5723) a servant [1401] plowing [722] (5723) or [2228] feeding cattle [4165] (5723), will say [2046] (5692) unto him [3739] by and by [2112], when he is come [1525] (5631) from [1537] the field [68], Go [3928] (5631) and sit down to meat [377] (5669)?
Luk 18:37 And [1161] they told [518] (5656) him [846], that [3754] Jesus [2424] of Nazareth [3480] passeth by [3928] (5736).
Luk 21:32 Verily [281] I say [3004] (5719) unto you [5213], [3754] This [3778] generation [1074] shall [3928] [0] not [3364] pass away [3928] (5632), [302] till [2193] all [3956] be fulfilled [1096] (5638).
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Follow up to "This Generation"
by Bill Parker infollow up to this generation!.
to all those who pray the prayer let your kingdom come in sincerity will soon experience a beautiful park-like paradise earth!
it is known from scripture that at various times throughout history jehovah god himself has spoken from the heavens.
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Bill Parker
JUST A MOM:
You said "You cannot apply it to the World" Look at Jeremiah 25:31! " A noise will come even to the ends of the earth, for the LORD has a controversy and an indictment against THE NATIONS; He will enter into judgment with ALL MANKIND; as for the wicked, He will give them to the sword." Verse 32 "evil will go forth from nation to nation,and a great whirling tempest will rise from the uttermost parts of the earth." Verse 33 ..." those slain by Jehovah shall be at that day from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth" ...After tht contoversy this scripture in Psalms 16: 10 will be fulfilled: " The LORD is King forever and ever; the nations have vanished from His Land" ... "I can't apply it to the world" How bout that for "a whole lot of cool aid." Swallow slowly!Of course you were partly correct. The "judgment starts first with the house of God." Those in the new covenant who have been acting wickedly will be taken out first. Then there will be a final weeding out among those under that covenant. At this point in time I belong to no organization. I do not allow anyone to mislead me! Not even you! On with the poker game!
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TRY THIS SCENARIO FOR "THIS GENERATION"
by Bill Parker intry this scenario for this generation!.
didnt jesus say when you see these signs, `all taken together, coming to pass, you may know `of a surety that he is near, at the very doors.
truly i tell you, this generation {the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a definite, given period} will not pass away till all these things taken together take place {matthew 24: 33, 34} in verse 32 jesus gives an illustration to show us how to view the signs he has given us.
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Bill Parker
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The illustration about the fig tree was not of my own invention. It was a parable given by Jesus to serve as a comparison. I could have used any tree it wouldn't have really mattered. Luke sets it forth nicely at chapter 21: 29-31. And He told them a parable: "Look at the fig tree AND ALL THE OTHER TREES; When they put forth their buds and come out in leaf, you see for yourself and perceive and know that summer is already near. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the message Jesus was conveying by using that parable. He was telling us to view all of the signs of His coming in the same way we that we view the approach of summer.In early spring we do not conclude that summer is here yet.We observe the trees budding first and then not too long afterward summer finaly arrives and they come out in "full leaf." With that thought in mind read verse 31. Even so, when you see these things taking place,understand and know that the Kingdom of God is at hand." Summer is not here yet is it? All of the sign is not clearly evident yet is it? All of the trees are not in "full bloom" as it were.That means then that He had to be talking about the generation of people alive all over the earth right now.He could not have been talking about the generation of 1914 because the generation of people living at that time only saw "The beginning of pangs of distress."The sign was to come like "labor pains on a pregnant woman."
That child has not arrived as yet. The labor pains continue. I thought that I made very clear in my article why I believed we are the generation Jesus was discussing. This idea did not come from my own imagination. It came from the scriptures. IT was those living at the conclusion of the system of things, {the harvest season} when the crops are brought in that would finally see all of the sign fulfilled. Now if my reasoning is not correct please use your Bible to set me straight. If you can do that I would appreciate it very much. I am only concerned with understanding the Bible correctly. "One man sharpens the face of another" I do not have all knowledge.1 Corinthians 8:2 Others have much more than I. When someone sets me straight using the Bible I am the one who benefits from that because it sharpens and hones the knowledge I already possess.